Now, there are defenses one can make of such a world. Maybe widespread abortion is necessary for female advancement. Maybe it isn’t a big deal if Europeans aren’t having enough children to replace themselves. Maybe children don’t need a mother and a father; maybe marriage itself is an outdated institution. Maybe the human embryo is no different, morally and commercially, from a fingernail clipping or skin-cell sample.But these aren’t arguments that serious Christians can accept. A society that does not have enough children to even reproduce itself is not a Christian society. A culture that kills 40 percent of the offspring it conceives in utero (that would be the abortion rate in New York City, where Planned Parenthood’s influence over public policy is ever-so-slightly larger than the Vatican’s) is not a Christian culture. A culture that practices a kind of de facto polygamy, with men fathering children with many different women—the state of affairs in underclass America, and increasingly in working-class America as well—is not a Christian culture.
Oh, well, good, glad we agree on this! All right, then, I guess, uh, feel free to fuck directly off to a monastery whenever it suits you and await the Parousia. Should be any day now, I'm sure.
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This man is a fucking freak. Nothing like imposing your notions of morality on the world at large.
How the fuck is it a bad thing that howevermuch we're raping natural resources, at least we're not contributing to overpopulation?
Is he worried the Hindoos and other infidels are going to over-run his god-fearing Christian nation?
Fuck.
Shanna: White racism is a big factor in these kinds of fears, yes.
Does anyone care enough to even check his statistics. That 40% abortion rate is...suspicious...to say the least.
@Brian, The_Doctor broke out the numbers in the comments section, if you're interested. You'll need to Ctrl+F it; Slate comments are poorly organized.
But amazing for trolling! (not that I would know anything about that...)
So... the government should get off our backs about most things, but force women to have babies to save our nation from underpopulation. "The Handmaiden's Tale" is so close to the reality of how these people think it makes me shudder. And we liberals are the fascists. (Is facetiousness still legal?)
Let's continue with the "A culture is not Christian if..." game: ... "it bombs people foreigners mercilessly.", "it laughs at prison rape.", "it treats the poor cruely.", etc. Ugh.
Shanna: What a mess. That Allessandra R is quite a peach, isn't she. Why is there such PASSION by straight bigots towards issues which impact maybe 1-5% of the population? Just cannot understand it.
Couldn't find it (even with Control F). Am I correct that the 40% abortion rate is...slightly exagerated?
@Brian, It looks like he segmented the population somehow. Either young women, or unmarried women, I'm not sure.
Here's the good doctor (holy shit a lot of comments. Alessandra is a raging bigot. "Harmful" sexuality my ass. Not as harmful as celibate priests-- not that that should reflect badly on the celibate populatiion as a whole, to be sure.)
Ok
The NYC study needs a good look, here.
Here are the demographics for NYC, broken down by race:
45% white
25% black
28% hispanic
The under 18 pregnancy rate
whites: 12 out of 1000
hispanics: 65 out of 1000
blacks: 79 out of 1000
The 18-20 pregnancy rate
whites: 40 out of 1000
hispanics: 171 out of 1000
blacks: 211 out of 1000
The abortion rate (under 18)
whites: 780 out of 1000 (78%)
hispanics: 550 out of 1000 (55%)
blacks: 770 out of 1000 (77%)
The abortion rate (18-20)
whites: 580 out of 1000 (58%)
hispanics: 500 out of 1000 (50%)
blacks: 680 out of 1000 (68%)
Poverty rate
whites: 14%
hispanics: 37%
blacks: 36%
Roughly ¼ of all abortions – and ¼ of all pregnancies are from women who are less than 20 years old.
So, what do I tease out of that information?
That the two groups with the higher poverty rates have the highest <18 pregnancy rates, and the highest <20 pregnancy rates.
The teen pregnancy rate between blacks and Hispanics is pretty close to the same (not exact, but both similar, and much higher than whites) – and they have similar poverty rates.
The teen ABORTION rate, however, is much closer between blacks and whites, while Hispanics are quite a bit lower than both.
Anecdotally, Hispanics are also much more likely to be catholic than blacks or whites. (religious demographics are hard to come by)
My thesis, were I working here would be this:
Poverty rate and the average income are causally linked to the pregnancy rate in teens. IE, poor YOUNG PEOPLE get pregnant at a MUCH higher rate than rich young people. I would then try to figure out why that was true.
I would further take a look at why, after they get pregnant, white and black teens both abort at similar rates, while Hispanics abort MUCH less than either group. I my causal link would be that Hispanics are MORE likely to be strict catholics than either blacks or whites, making abortion a much less acceptable action.
Finally, I would look at the absolute numbers – white teens – 45% of the population - only experienced 1500 pregnancies, while Hispanics – 28% of the population – experience 9,700 pregnancies, and blacks 25% of the population – experienced 9,500 pregnancies.
I would make that argument that, apparently, the white kids are doing something that the blacks and Hispanics aren’t – and maybe that is using contraception? I don’t think that Hispanics or blacks are really 4 or 5 times more promiscuous than whites. I’d suggest that maybe, white kids, who are statistically more likely to be financially better off, might be able to get access to contraception more easily than their minority counterparts? $30 isn’t a lot in absolute terms, but when you are below the poverty line, it’s not ‘pocket change’ either.
So, to you moral hypocrites: instead of whining about our abortion happy culture, why don’t you do something about the pregnancy rate???? That is the damned problem, not the abortion rate – and that pregnancy rate is driving the abortion rate, not the other way around.
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